Beautifully shot edited and the kids are so cute!
I noticed that at the end it says the film is based on a true story? Whose true story?No one has the slightest physical evidence to support a historical Jesus; no artifacts, dwelling, works of carpentry, or self-written manuscripts. All claims about Jesus derive from writings of other people. There occurs no contemporary Roman record that shows Pontius Pilate executing a man named Jesus. There is absolutely nothing to show that the Gospels–the only sources of authority as to the existence of Christ–were written until a hundred and fifty years after the events they pretend to describe. The Gospels are written in Greek–every one of them. Nor were they translated from some other language. Every leading Christian scholar since Erasmus, four hundred years ago, has maintained that they were originally written in Greek. This proves that they were not written by Christ’s disciples, or by any of the early Christians. Foreign Gospels, written by unknown men, in a foreign tongue, several generations after the death of those who are supposed to have known the facts–such is the evidence relied upon to prove that Jesus lived.
Why do we continue to lie to our children (and ourselves). Why not write “Film based on a myth.”
Hearsay means information derived from other people rather than on a witness’ own knowledge/accounts.
Courts of law do not generally allow hearsay as testimony, and nor does honest modern scholarship. Hearsay provides no proof or good evidence, and therefore, we should dismiss it. Although the gospels of the New Testament– like those discovered at Nag Hammadi– are attributed to Jesus’ followers, no one knows who actually wrote any of them. As an experiment, imagine the Gospels without their titles. See if you can find out from the texts who wrote them; try to find their names. Do we want to develop free thinkers or followers/sheep who could be lead into the abyss( many examples throughout history, ie the Nazi Germany, the Childrens’ Crusade-1212 AD etc etc…)? Let’s differentiate between the Christ of faith and the historical Christ. Forgive the filmmakers, G-d, “for they know not what they do…”
PS no one believes the Nazis propaganda of the German’s being the pure Aryan Race why do we foster other propaganda (not just of Jesus but other messianic faiths)? Responsibility is a heavy cross to carry.
I hope CB posts this blog and doesn’t “Assange” it!
Hey (God) 8:13pm- Thanks for reading my comments- really made an impact on you to get you to call me names. How are my comments killing the spirit of Christmas? I never said anything about love, peace, giving and understanding? Jesus would never have called me a douche-bag (learn how to write English correctly, you missed the hyphenation). Why vent your spleen for expressing my opinion, you obviously missed the message in the film (which as I said is beautifully done)? Is that all you can say? Why don’t you write something of merit (refuting my argument) rather than attacking me? I made the point that there is a difference between myth and truth- you obviously missed that . Be careful not to nail me to a cross- might make a religion after me! Signed douche-bag ( maybe you’re the one full of shit- well venom anyway). Don’t call yourself God, it’s sacrilegious and insulting to the infinite spirit.
Thanks CB for publishing my comments.
Is rampant consumerism pushed by the Ad industry the Christmas spirit? Is manipulating children/adults to want more and more useless (and expensive) toys the Christmas spirit? Is the world drowning in garbage in the Christmas spirit?
Wouldn’t it be better to take the money we spend on self-centered “me-ism” and give it to a charity to help those less fortunate, be more in the Christmas spirit? You should ask yourself these questions 8.13 instead of trying to rubbish someones opinion.Free thinking and freedom of speech obviously threatens you.
@History observation
I suggest you read The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel. It covers all your false claims against the truth of Jesus with real evidence that would stand up in any western “Court of law” (eyewitness, documentary, corroborating, scientific, rebuttal, identity, psychological, profile, fingerprint, medical and circumstantial evidence, and the evidence of the missing body and appearances). Then take a look at the true history of the creation of that law, and our public education, public healthcare, social welfare, the abolition of slavery and that freedom of speech you enjoy. Then tell me again that I’m lying to my kids.
Hi James, I find it interesting that you use the words “lying to my Kids” You are only lying to them if you don’t believe in the Jesus story and telling them the opposite. By the way, what did you tell your kids when they were young about Santa and the tooth fairy? Did you “lie” to them or just tell them a “story”. Such emotive language “tell me again I am lying to my kids” is being used by you to demean me personally and make me out to be a bad guy- why- because I question your belief in what I believe is a myth. There is an edge of nastiness to your last sentence. You have, most likely, told your kids that Jesus was born on the 25th of December, yet even among christian scholars there is great conjecture on his exact date of birth.
Are you lying to your kids or do you believe the 25th is the true date. Fact or Myth?
Are you a free thinker or a unquestioning faith follower? What do you want your kids to be?
Also you mention Lee Strobel. Why didn’t you add that he is one of the most recognised Christian apologetics and is a pastor at Willow Creek Community Church. (Willow Creek is a mega-church in the USA- is Lee one of the people Jesus would have thrown out when he dispersed the money lenders from the temple? Lee after all has grown very rich from his congregation).
He is a creationist and a believer in “Intelligent Design”, Strobel writing accounts of the historical Jesus as fact rather than myth is like L. Ron Hubbard writing debunking Scientology or Eddie McGuire writing Collingwood FC not being the greatest club in the history of Aussie Rules. Why is it in his book “The Case For Christ” he does not interview any any critics of Christian apologetics. Very one sided don’t you think?
Why bring up..”creation of law..public schools.. freedom of speech.. etc”. Is this another attack (the best defense)? All I pointed out is to consider if the Jesus story is myth or fact. Nothing to do with our current moral codes. But you must admit that the church has been instrumental in the denying of freedom of speech in its long history (Spanish Inquisition, persecution of those who did not believe in the earth-centered cosmos, heretics questioning the flat earth theory and many other examples of thoughts threatening the church’s dogma). Suppression is not only the realm of the Christian church but many other religions- in the past and still today (suppression of those abused by priests, lack of freedom of speech in many Muslim countries.. etc). Suppression of freedom of speech is not just a religious weapon but exists in secular states as well- look what is happening to Julian Assange! I dispute that the church gave us those modernism, but free thinkers both within and outside of the church. Check your history books!
But this is not the point- you have brought this up to attack me rather than a rational discussion on the Jesus Fact or Myth.
May your children have healthy, happy, loving, productive long lives. Kiss them before sleep for after all they are our future (I am not being facetious- I mean it).
@History observation
You asked: “Why do we continue to lie to our children (and ourselves)”. As I was responsible for making this film which includes my kids, I take that as you saying that I’m lying to my kids.
I wrote “Based on a true story” at the end of our film. You questioned the evidence for that. The Case for Christ and the last 2011 years of social change are evidence for that.
You also wrote “But you must admit that the church has been instrumental in the denying of freedom of speech in its long history”. I do admit that. Some parts of the ‘church’ (or state posing as the church) have been and continue to be guilty of acting directly against the teaching of Jesus who they claim to follow. Which is why passing on and celebrating the truth about Jesus is so important.
9:01 read this: http://conspiracyscience.com/articles/zeitgeist/part-one/#the_sun
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Beautifully shot edited and the kids are so cute!
I noticed that at the end it says the film is based on a true story? Whose true story?No one has the slightest physical evidence to support a historical Jesus; no artifacts, dwelling, works of carpentry, or self-written manuscripts. All claims about Jesus derive from writings of other people. There occurs no contemporary Roman record that shows Pontius Pilate executing a man named Jesus. There is absolutely nothing to show that the Gospels–the only sources of authority as to the existence of Christ–were written until a hundred and fifty years after the events they pretend to describe. The Gospels are written in Greek–every one of them. Nor were they translated from some other language. Every leading Christian scholar since Erasmus, four hundred years ago, has maintained that they were originally written in Greek. This proves that they were not written by Christ’s disciples, or by any of the early Christians. Foreign Gospels, written by unknown men, in a foreign tongue, several generations after the death of those who are supposed to have known the facts–such is the evidence relied upon to prove that Jesus lived.
Why do we continue to lie to our children (and ourselves). Why not write “Film based on a myth.”
Hearsay means information derived from other people rather than on a witness’ own knowledge/accounts.
Courts of law do not generally allow hearsay as testimony, and nor does honest modern scholarship. Hearsay provides no proof or good evidence, and therefore, we should dismiss it. Although the gospels of the New Testament– like those discovered at Nag Hammadi– are attributed to Jesus’ followers, no one knows who actually wrote any of them. As an experiment, imagine the Gospels without their titles. See if you can find out from the texts who wrote them; try to find their names. Do we want to develop free thinkers or followers/sheep who could be lead into the abyss( many examples throughout history, ie the Nazi Germany, the Childrens’ Crusade-1212 AD etc etc…)? Let’s differentiate between the Christ of faith and the historical Christ. Forgive the filmmakers, G-d, “for they know not what they do…”
PS no one believes the Nazis propaganda of the German’s being the pure Aryan Race why do we foster other propaganda (not just of Jesus but other messianic faiths)? Responsibility is a heavy cross to carry.
I hope CB posts this blog and doesn’t “Assange” it!
Way to kill the Christmas spirit, douchebag.
Hey (God) 8:13pm- Thanks for reading my comments- really made an impact on you to get you to call me names. How are my comments killing the spirit of Christmas? I never said anything about love, peace, giving and understanding? Jesus would never have called me a douche-bag (learn how to write English correctly, you missed the hyphenation). Why vent your spleen for expressing my opinion, you obviously missed the message in the film (which as I said is beautifully done)? Is that all you can say? Why don’t you write something of merit (refuting my argument) rather than attacking me? I made the point that there is a difference between myth and truth- you obviously missed that . Be careful not to nail me to a cross- might make a religion after me! Signed douche-bag ( maybe you’re the one full of shit- well venom anyway). Don’t call yourself God, it’s sacrilegious and insulting to the infinite spirit.
Thanks CB for publishing my comments.
Not in the Christmas spirit 8.13!
Is rampant consumerism pushed by the Ad industry the Christmas spirit? Is manipulating children/adults to want more and more useless (and expensive) toys the Christmas spirit? Is the world drowning in garbage in the Christmas spirit?
Wouldn’t it be better to take the money we spend on self-centered “me-ism” and give it to a charity to help those less fortunate, be more in the Christmas spirit? You should ask yourself these questions 8.13 instead of trying to rubbish someones opinion.Free thinking and freedom of speech obviously threatens you.
@History observation
I suggest you read The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel. It covers all your false claims against the truth of Jesus with real evidence that would stand up in any western “Court of law” (eyewitness, documentary, corroborating, scientific, rebuttal, identity, psychological, profile, fingerprint, medical and circumstantial evidence, and the evidence of the missing body and appearances). Then take a look at the true history of the creation of that law, and our public education, public healthcare, social welfare, the abolition of slavery and that freedom of speech you enjoy. Then tell me again that I’m lying to my kids.
Hi James, I find it interesting that you use the words “lying to my Kids” You are only lying to them if you don’t believe in the Jesus story and telling them the opposite. By the way, what did you tell your kids when they were young about Santa and the tooth fairy? Did you “lie” to them or just tell them a “story”. Such emotive language “tell me again I am lying to my kids” is being used by you to demean me personally and make me out to be a bad guy- why- because I question your belief in what I believe is a myth. There is an edge of nastiness to your last sentence. You have, most likely, told your kids that Jesus was born on the 25th of December, yet even among christian scholars there is great conjecture on his exact date of birth.
Are you lying to your kids or do you believe the 25th is the true date. Fact or Myth?
Are you a free thinker or a unquestioning faith follower? What do you want your kids to be?
Also you mention Lee Strobel. Why didn’t you add that he is one of the most recognised Christian apologetics and is a pastor at Willow Creek Community Church. (Willow Creek is a mega-church in the USA- is Lee one of the people Jesus would have thrown out when he dispersed the money lenders from the temple? Lee after all has grown very rich from his congregation).
He is a creationist and a believer in “Intelligent Design”, Strobel writing accounts of the historical Jesus as fact rather than myth is like L. Ron Hubbard writing debunking Scientology or Eddie McGuire writing Collingwood FC not being the greatest club in the history of Aussie Rules. Why is it in his book “The Case For Christ” he does not interview any any critics of Christian apologetics. Very one sided don’t you think?
Why bring up..”creation of law..public schools.. freedom of speech.. etc”. Is this another attack (the best defense)? All I pointed out is to consider if the Jesus story is myth or fact. Nothing to do with our current moral codes. But you must admit that the church has been instrumental in the denying of freedom of speech in its long history (Spanish Inquisition, persecution of those who did not believe in the earth-centered cosmos, heretics questioning the flat earth theory and many other examples of thoughts threatening the church’s dogma). Suppression is not only the realm of the Christian church but many other religions- in the past and still today (suppression of those abused by priests, lack of freedom of speech in many Muslim countries.. etc). Suppression of freedom of speech is not just a religious weapon but exists in secular states as well- look what is happening to Julian Assange! I dispute that the church gave us those modernism, but free thinkers both within and outside of the church. Check your history books!
But this is not the point- you have brought this up to attack me rather than a rational discussion on the Jesus Fact or Myth.
May your children have healthy, happy, loving, productive long lives. Kiss them before sleep for after all they are our future (I am not being facetious- I mean it).
History observation – I heart you.
James Boweman – watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNf-P_5u_Hw
@History observation
You asked: “Why do we continue to lie to our children (and ourselves)”. As I was responsible for making this film which includes my kids, I take that as you saying that I’m lying to my kids.
I wrote “Based on a true story” at the end of our film. You questioned the evidence for that. The Case for Christ and the last 2011 years of social change are evidence for that.
You also wrote “But you must admit that the church has been instrumental in the denying of freedom of speech in its long history”. I do admit that. Some parts of the ‘church’ (or state posing as the church) have been and continue to be guilty of acting directly against the teaching of Jesus who they claim to follow. Which is why passing on and celebrating the truth about Jesus is so important.
9:01 read this:
http://conspiracyscience.com/articles/zeitgeist/part-one/#the_sun